2 Decades of Cannabis Cultivation

[Muddy Waters]

Nice setup.  I did the math, that's a damn good living.

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Jacks Cleaner f1
Jacks Cleaner is an old friend as you can see I have had her along time. I would like to first thank Skoosh who gave me the original beans and this is what he had to say about the Seeds.
“Well, actually let's start with "skosh"
1985 SSSC (Nevil's)
NL#5 X Pluton
Back crossed into the original NL#5 mom.
NL#5/Pluton X Purple Haze
Backed into the NL#5 mom”

He crosses it with some crazy Jamaican he had and then back to some kush he had so it’s a crazy combo for sure. All I can tell you is I spoke of it for 5 years to badboy who during that time traveled all over tasting some of the best and making friends with Bubbleman and others. I think hes a pretty good judge of good cannabis and when we finally got an f1 cutting to him and he grew it out the results were impressive to say the least and he aggress for sheer potency it’s the work horse of the species.

Its best harvested at 56 but max yield and potency are better at 63 were she takes on a bite. The bubble is absolutely brutal having a flesh tone and a better taste than the actual bud. I have tried many ways to improve the taste of the actual mom using growing methods and finally gave up and created Hybrids like JCB and now JTR that has a sweet mango/lemon flavor and a smoother draw with the same pronounced resin if not more.


Heads did a Story on JC called Myth or legend that goes more in depth..
I think it was the first time Canadians were introduced to her.

I have 2 decades of Pictures lets go crazy yes?

From My JC Article

You may not have heard of the strain Jacks Cleaner, but among collectors of Elite genetics it has become somewhat of an urban legend. This is due to a few factors. The first is I grew it for many years before other respected growers tried it and let me know it was probably the best Sativa Hybrid in existence. In 1997 I had a gathering known in breeder circles as “Jamaica 1” several respected under ground breeder/growers met at my place and we spent 3 days toking testing talking and feasting on BBQ and southern food. We had a un official judging and JC won every first place vote. Now maybe the guys were just being nice because I tossed the gig but I knew at least I had found a great strain. But where did it come from?
I got my first PC in about 1994 it was an Acer 133 and soon found a great deal of information on Cannabis, certainly not anything like today but it led me to grow chats where I met others that shared an interest for growing. One of the first I became close online friends with was a guy with the nick ‘Skoosh’. I was amazed that there was another seriously hard working tax paying Loyal American that waked and baked everyday of his adult life. We swapped stories online, toked while we typed and found out we both love ice cream. He offered me some seeds and over time traded around what we each had. He sent me about 200 seeds of a old strain called Skoosh that was pretty infamous in his circles and I started cracking large treys looking for a keeper. The make up of these seeds were Pluton, Lambs bread, Purple Haze, and Northern Lights. What mix or pattern these crosses occurred I am not sure. Most of what I found was not impressive, super thin spindly sativa’s and mutants with whorled leaves. I did find a few that seemed normal and grew them to maturity. Of all the seeds I started over a period of a year one phenotype stood out. It was a extremely resinous ultra lemon wonder. It reminded me of a house hold cleaner named “Mr Clean” So I named it “The Cleaner”. It had one poor trait and that was weak stems and smaller size. I had not yet read botany and we all thought breeders were smarter than god so it was just luck I had a Jack Herer male from Sensi Seeds that I was to lazy to kill and just placed in a dark garage. It refused to die so I placed a small 12” Cleaner clone with him and she produced about 35 seeds.
From these I selected the best female and tossed all the males. From these was the Phenotype many now consider to be the holy grail of Cannabis, Jacks Cleaner is a large heavy producer with ultra white raised trichomes that actually give the plant a gooey appearance. Heavy citrus with over bearing lemon smell and taste I have yet to see anything like it. In 2003 we out crossed the P1 mother with a JC X blueberry offspring and created JC bx. This first stage back cross recently won third place in the 420 cup in Amsterdam by a grower named HOG. It had a 12 day cure and blew everyone away as he was an unknown in there neck of the woods. There is some confusion cause many that have the JC bx misstate the fact and say they have JC leaving off the BX indicating a back cross.
This year I started Space Queen by Vic a hybrid cross of Cindy-99 and Romulan. I never considered it something impressive but it has blown Jill and I away. It is extremely potent fast maturing and just an amazing flavor. Pineapples and mangos with a candy like fragrance it has become our stash smoke. We have now decided to cross the JC P1 with the best Space Queen male we found.. Many would argue you need thousands of plants to start with for selecting to be considered a ‘True Breeder” but I think 30 years of growing and a keen eye for recessive traits can compensate starting from a smaller gene pool and the feed back from our medical users backs up my theory.
You can see by the photo’s that JC is not a normal hemp dominant plant. Just the speed of resin production makes her somewhat of a freak .You can see how the large raised resin heads give some shots a glass effect. I will attempt to describe toking JC from a clean bong, the smoke is crisp and thick with a heavy lemon oiliness that seems to coat the sinuses with citrus, it is a bit harsh and tends to make me wince, then the expansion starts and if you took a small enough hit and don’t cough the buzz is instant. At first the buzz is visual and very cerebral. Then the other side starts creeping and you feel as if you smoked some heavy indica. The munchies come on and after you eat plates full of bizarre food combinations you are ready for a nap. Once you are used to the high it has amazing analgesic properties and a good friend said it even made him last longer with his GF due to it’s pain relieving aspects.

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More JC
This plant is old as dirt but just so potent and resinous its un worldly. If I was a shit like I feel many at the compitition I just attented I would have entered this mother clone but then the award wouldn't stand for alot would it. Dam morals get in my way all the time

She has a few quirks that you have to get used to if you let her go to long she wants to get small seeds after day 65 or so. I never see a naner and chalk it up to age the trait dosn't pass on in breeding and seems to run in some type of cycle where it only happens every 7 grows. We keep her pollenated with Space Queen dust now as there is a world wide call for the Medical Grade sibling JTR and the Cross JC2 made by back crossing JTR with this mother.

Lets look at Momma THC seeded and Not seeded
These are some of my favorite Macro shots of JC I truly could keep posting pics of her for a week she has been in my garden a long time through several bust and shipped all over the world chasing me around. This year we have secured her into spain so that the world will never loose her benifits.

Potency x 10

I have seen veteran smokers go white and fall over like a falled tree after a large bong hit.

Tommy^2 weighs about 245 and it was all I could do one day to soften his fall and make him avoid my glass coffee table.

TIMBER!!


I want you to know I have lost this girl 4 different times 3 times alone to piggies so if I seem obsessed with her Excuse Me! ( Steve Martin Reference) Each time good friend like Pi, Walking Dude, and STP returned her to me. We know have the clone secured on multiple continents.




Not the thread we just got started

I love doing this BTW
Long Long ago before I was a breeder and Journalist I was posting my ass off on Overgrow just to show how beautiful the Cannabis plant is.

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JC Bubble
Lemon Zest Hashish!

Oh Yeah!



I was in Amsterdam in 1999 standing in line at the Blue Bird to buy some Malana Cream and some Thwizla Hash. The red haired dude there that works as a cutter was offering Warlock seeds from Magnus genetics(See Warlock) for like 50 guilders a pack at the time a pack of AK-47 was 300$ so I grabbed a few packs. Iterestingly enough that same year the guy that created Great White Shark was selling 50 seeds for 25 Guilders should have bought a few thousand I guess. I have never been one to mince my words and I won’t stop now. While its unique strawberry smell gave it great buyer appeal the weed was shite and lacked any ready body or potency. Sure looked nice though!



I was harvesting so much weed back then I permanently smelled like a bud. When I left the house I kept smelling weed, seems the resin had permeated my skin or some shit. Thanks to AE I no longer grew little 16” tall plants but full size mommas fitted together to form a solid carpet of buds. I use the same basic method today but I allow much more room in between each plant and quantity isn’t my goal now but max quality. I no longer use c02 for a few reasons I have 3 kids in the home and we have more weed than we can smoke or give away now. Our laws prevent the sale of any meds so extra just gets turned into cookies and I have to trim it so we grow what we need.

Back then we tracked every gram and me and several friends competed for the largest show harvest I didn’t win btw I had a FNG run 16 JC under 2K in same rig with c02 and he vegged em to long. He pulled 74 zipps off 2K. Some of the qp’s were 4 buds J

The only problem with JCB is I only pollinated enough for about 40 seeds so the first 15 used up a lot. I sent a few friends some but I don’t know where they might be. I sent Bog the rest I figured that X a bubblegum would be insane of flavor if stabilized.

He used these 10 seeds to create Lifesafer and LSD

You are looking at my first cross when you see Batgirl and the criteria was only it had maroon stems and lemon berry sounded good to me! You can’t count me Crossing the male Jack Herer to the Cleaner Pheno it was the only way to preserve it and I only made a hand full of seeds.

We got some variation but at that time I didn’t know really why. I read everything I could and shortly before this run ended I had at least a plan to make the JC bx I just didn’t get a chance to follow through for 4 years. You can see I had some clue I had each female labeled and I took clones and budded each female under the same conditions to select the best. My male selection criteria was stupid Blue Color and a berry smell wow I still use the same simple ideas but now we work a male with many known females to determine his traits. This is one reason I re started with Space Queen as a male and why JTR is far superior over JCB.

We also got a sativa Pheno that STP dubbed Speed racer due to its hazsy speedy buzz. I think he grows it to this day. But the good news looking back I guess is 3 females were very similar. All were extremely potent and had a instant nap quality. I had many a friend take a few bong rips and pass out on my couch.

I would like to thank you for reading along, these pictures really brought back memories of fast cars, loud systems, blazing across the USA with a few elbos dropping through the Cumberland gap winding though the smokey mountains. Ripping across I-10 taking some meds into Tejaz picking up 50 pounds of swag for the city dwellers and humping it back.

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Interlude... Some time passes.
Our first stop is in Bogota
To check Colombian fields
The natives smile and pass along
A sample of their yield
Sweet Jamaican pipe dreams
Golden Acapulco nights
Then Morocco, and the East
Fly by morning light
Wreathed in smoke in Lebanon
We burn the midnight oil
The fragrance of Afghanistan
Rewards a long day's toil
Pulling into Katmandu
Smoke rings fill the air
Perfumed by a Nepal night
The Express gets you there
We're on the train to Bangkok
Aboard the Thailand Express
We'll hit the stops along the way
We only stop for the best
Interlude:

Leo, Jail Time, Blunt Springs me, the Gypsy Monolouges, Blunts death, Canada, Clones get to Cold safe place, International smuggling charge, more jail, Tossed outs Canada

What next you ask?

Lets resettle where they make Cheese and steak brats!



Some Travel Pics

Eagle Bill gets the Vap for Danny
Danny passed 5 years ago in November and we lost Bill last year.

I miss em both and Amsterdam wasn't be the same without em.

[illegal smiles]

 beautiful pics/plants/hash!! K++

glad to hear you were also a member of OG (i was a very active member on it before it was shut down).

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From My Article in Hightimes Tittled Oh Dannyboy!

I want to tell you the story of the strain Dannyboy and how it got it’s unusual strain name. Before I tell you about the strain let me tell you about the man. Growers by the nature of the game and the internet is a great way to still have some form of contact with other humans while not exposing your self to the security risk of actually having people know where you live or even what you do. Running a grow is somewhat of a ball and chain as you have chores to be done at least every 3 days and leaving a large indoor grow can always be a security risk so a grower can become secluded without this outlet.

I met a guy in 1993 that worked in the daytime, his nick name was “Blunt” and he seemed to always be online in the early mornings a lot. He ran a catering company that supplied coffee and donuts to job sites. Yes “Blunt” ran “Roach Coaches” and they made great chilli dogs! Over the next few years we became great friends meeting for the first time at the Jungle Juice Café in Schiphol airport in Amsterdam. I found out his name was Danny and from that day on we became brothers. I talked, he listened and we saw the sites together, always returning to the net and telling all our friends about the cool things we saw and experienced.

Danny always had my back and without getting to detailed he helped me get out of jail many times on his own dime. In 2001 I was working in Amsterdam for a seed distributor and Danny came to the cup for his second time in 2001 and on the second day passed away in his sleep at 38. Seems he had some health and job related stress issues he kept to himself. Over 200 stoners from the Internet attended his funeral. His parents didn’t know a man could have so many friends. It seems everyone liked the guy.

The only true way I could think of to honor this man was to name my first strain after him. He was a big fan of fruity tasting strains and loved the Killer Queen harvested at day 55. Once I found the female I wanted to work with we selected a few males of Ortega X C99 and did some out crossing. The best female was named Taco by stoner friends who made a joke about Ortega being a food company. The male was selected from only 2 boys but heritage is everything in breeding and either plant would have been a great father. The final product is a hybrid Danny would have loved.

Tasting like cherry “Jolly Rancher” candy and just covered in thick large trichomes this plant is equally good as a head stash or a Bubblehash making plant. It is so frosty I am sure the ratio when making bubble is very high. The dry kief from it is fruity and smooth and just lovely sprinkled on any bud. This weed smells and taste so much like cherries I was surprised at its finished color. Was just destiny and I am sure Blunt was helping from above...

From seed Dannyboy stays very short with wide sharp leaf edges and a dark green color. Only topped once the females were just a short fat bush and as they matured very little stretch was present. Resin showed as early as 21 days and by 30 days they reeked like cherry gum drops. Later as the plant reached maturity it took on a solid white frost with a sour cherry smell, the first hit blew me away it was so tasty I was shocked. Once the buds dried and cured for 30 days I would just sit and smell the buds I almost got a Brandy snifter to do so. From clone the only difference in the growth was a faster finish

At First she was just a favorite of Jill and I and then Sunycheba got a cut, grew her out and loved her. Badboy was given the duplication project (Killer Quuen f1 & Ortega X C99 Male) and while at it grew out several females from seed, all cherry and fruity and potent. The strain finishes very fast which is nice if you run a bit short close to harvest our phenotype was at least 10 days faster than any other strain in the garden. Her down side is she needs extra vegetive time to compete and yield heavy in soil she starts off slow and doesn’t hit her stride in the vegetive room till she’s over 30” tall. This strain has been around so much it has gained quite a following and recently a good friend “Irishfatboy” smoked some with Wille Nelson. My favorite story from his travels with Dannyboy in his stash is a buddy that was riding with him and when they stopped to break they had some DB bubble hash his friend says “ The colors are getting to me I need to lie down. Irishfatboy sent me a great picture of his buddy passed out on a beach with a huge smile on his face.
Another grower “Ganjaden” grew out Danny in large tubs full of soil and his results were amazing with his first harvest from a single pack of seeds coming in at over 26 ounces from 6 females. The more people grew her out the more everyone liked her.
I once did a thread on Overgrow detailing the 2001 Cannabis Cup and I mentioned Danny and his story and basically we sold out of the strain over night. We also have a Dannyboy BX or backcross that is a bit larger and more Killer Queen Dominant and that sold out as well. There are a few packs around but its not an easy strain to acquire in seed form anymore. The good news is a great cutting is pretty easy to find as more DB has been grown out than any TGA gear!
We have just released in limited numbers a Dannyboy X Spacequeen hybrid I named Danielle, which will be a limited offering and is available now at Cannaseur.com. We are making Dannyboy 2 but the Taco male was lost and the new cross will not be released until I am satisfied its better than the original.
Even though not many at the Cup knew of him Danny was truly an American Stoner working his ass off running a business and relaxing with a nice bowl after work. He was the coolest dude I ever met and loosing him was like loosing my brother.
He is truly the founding member of TGA and I miss him everyday.

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Cuddlefish Hash Plant
Good Morning, thanks for the kind words I kinda think this is a one of a kind thread myself and the great pics aren't even posted yet!


This strain is an old time favorite and it was passed on to friends up north and recently Homegrown and friend of Badboys sent me these pictures from his grow in the great white north. It is what MsJill would call original kind bud as it has that skunky fruity smell of the first Indica strains I ever tasted. I originally received this clone from Squid and it gained the name Cuddlefish to separate it form the BC hash plant. This is a different strain and was found in a pack of Sensi Seeds in about 1984. It is extremely similar to the mother plant Super Skunk used in our Neon Skunk Hybrid but there are subtle differences that differentiate the two phenotypes. Hash Plant has a sweeter flavor and a speedier finish SSK has as the name implies the smell of something rotten and while Hash Plant is a high odor strain it smells more of rotting fruit that rotting meat.
The main attribute of this plant and why we use it in breeding projects is it has an extremely short profile and minimal stretch, having a large mass center bud its perfect for Coli and cage style growing but also does well in DWC or soil when vegged to a proper size. Finishing in 8 weeks with large rounded colas she will turn all shades of the rainbow as she enters the final stages of floral maturity. You can see the beautiful reds, yellows, and maroons present in Homegrowns amazing pictures.
I have also grown this plant outdoors and it yielded some big numbers for sure and even in the mid west of the USA it was able to finish before the first frost came. The Outdoor smoke looked great and had a sweet smell but I think the fertilizers used in the corn fields gave it a harsh taste but I’m kind of a pot snob about Organics anyway. I have seen full rooms of her run in DWC with amazing totals, it’s almost bred for the super fast vegetive speed of Buckets. With many strains hydro is so effective that you can’t really grow a large plant or the stretch during the first weeks of 12/12 means to much height. Hash Plant only stretches about 2X in Hydro and even less in soil.
When topping the plant can be so thick in a crowded room the canopy can get so think I have removed fan leaves to allow more light down into the canopy this is one crazy bush when topped more than once. I had a mom once that was budded and regenerated and I bet she had 30 heads on her she only grew about 10” after going to a 12/12 light schedule and the canopy was so thick she basically yielded just one layer of triangle shaped buds.


Hash Plant a TGA Mother Plant


We like this cross so much we used her to create one of our earlier crosses that Suny gave the name Conquistador to. I hate typing all that and among fans it has the nick name Connie. Known for her Huge towering columnar buds she has a fruity watermelon smell that is quite incredible the first time you smoke it tasting almost like artificial watermelon gum flavoring like in Hubba Bubba bubblegum. Some people who try this strain first out of all our genetics become such loyal growers they never try any of the more speedy hybrids we produced later. Connie proved to be extremely stable and out of many grows across the planet I am always able to spot this massive cola courtesy of Badboy on his first run of his new strain created using my proven moms.
Our latest creation following Connie is Zorro following the same theme as Conquistador but a shorter handle I don’t mind typing. I believe collected older stock is always the best way to create a hybrid today as most of the genetics I see available are pretty un impressive. We run so many strains among our little group of friends and I am not going to dog any one out but just last year we ran White Russian, Sugar Chemo, Blueberry Northern Lights, Dab, and a few others in search of decent fathers to create new hybrids. None of these met our criteria for head stash the very first that must be met in order to merit a second run in our grow room much less the breeding area.
I had been hording a pack of Grimms Mix for about 8 years and the source was the same as or amazing Ortega male so I have a lot of confidence in our new out cross Bigfoot using hash Plant as the Mother and Grimm male we selected based on methods established by me in earlier breeding projects.
This strain has been adopted by many commercial growers in Canada as a heavy yielding potent strain but it is also known for needing large Air Scrubbers to deal with the funk it creates especially during harvest. The stone is a Heavy Indica with full blown munchies and the typical pot nap this strain is very good for those seeking relief from insomnia or weight loss.

[snowmann]

sounds like you have some killer strains. I'll probably buy something like Jack's Cleaner II when I'll have an indoor grow, which is still a few years from now. oh, and K+ for the interesting read and amazing pictures

[Uzi578]

Damn I wish I knew you in real life...

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Damn I wish I knew you in real life...

hahah i was thinking the same!

[obi1]

impressionnant !
much K/Watts..

Very Nice
 

[claw222]

You are the man so many beautiful buds and different kinds.It would be an honor to get STONED WITH YOU