Stunnajh's 2009 Grow Report

[Infinite]

u will still be able to get a crop if u start soon, as for ordering i think muddy would have the best opinion on that as he tends to order seeds yearly

[stunnajh]

ok kool. Thanx Infinite. Have u ever smoked mango? I am thinking about getting mango seeds.

[Infinite]

As a matter of fact, yes i have and I really enjoyed it....the taste is light but it is there..mango on the sides and back of your tounge mostly an after taste but still there. And i believe i read that muddy digs on joey weed seeds....u may want to search it but i am pretty sure i have that right. Keep us posted as to what is happening, and keep in mind that u can recover almost any plant if it isnt fully dead. U really need to flush the shit out of your soil, go buy some distilled water...its 99 cents a gal at most rite aid wal green type of stores, cvs whatever it is u have local to you, even walmart has it cheap. anyhow a couple gal each plant should help  out a whole lot, it will get rid of any nute lock up you might have, if they are inside u could also add some cheap cfl lights to keep close and run em 24/7 for a few days, your plants will need food too but under feed them, mix whatever it is u r using at half strength or less, dont worry if they die cause it sounds like you have given up on em anyway so just spend a few bucks a plant and make sure they get unfiltered light(not light thru the window)  and feed em really lightly, if u have super thrive use it, if not, get it...your plants may come back full swing in a matter of days, by the way,,,after flushing, u need to make sure that u have good drainage, the water needs to come out and not make the roots sit in it, if you need more help let me know. I am sure muddy or myself will be around to respond within the day

[Infinite]

one more thing, cut off most of the totaly wilted and browned leaves, just make sure not to cut off much more than 50% o your plant, i had one almost die last grow and i had to chop it back to on branch and three sets of leaves from a bush that it was b4 it got sick, it made it but only under some serious tlc...it produced some bomb hearb in the end too

[stunnajh]

I cut off all of the dead and wilted stuff off of the plants. There is two that I am trying to revive. They both have small sets of leaves coming in, so that is a positive. There is not much left of either plant. They are pretty pathetic looking, but the little bit of leaves they do have are green and healthy looking, none the less. I flushed the shit out of them with tap water, then gave them some purified water. Now they are sitting under a light that you start chicks under. I just saw the lights and thought might as well try it. I would set them outside, but theres no sun anyway and a terrible storm is supposed to be coming this way. They have been outside getting sun for the last couple of days anyway. One of the plants was bent at the stalk. I tied it to a stake above and below the bend.

So now I guess all we do is wait. I dont have any money right now, so i cant really get and nutes. What should I get when I do get money? I am against chemicals cuz I want everything to be natural. So if at all possible, I would like to give them something nature made and not scientists lol.

BTW of the two plants, one is ICE and the other is Super Silver Haze. I just hope I get at least one girl of the two. U think that is much of a possibility considering all the stress they have been through?

[Muddy Waters]

So it turns out, I have had a terrible grow. So the story goes:

I should have waited to start the plants because I have just been trying to hide them the whole time. They have been puny the way through. My dad was staying with me for a while, and that really ruined everything. My plants are basically dead. there is a little life left in a couple of them, but they are slowly dying. I finally have it where I feel like it is MY house, so I think I am ready now.

Here's the worst part, though:

I left my seeds in the apt. I was living in before the move... I know... jackass move on my part. I can't believe I did it either. I have been feeling down about the whole thing, which is why I havent been posting on here.

However, like I said earlier, I finally feel like this is my own house. My dad has moved out and its just me and the misses. I've got a new ray of hope. So, I am going to buy a feminized autoflowering plant(seed actually). I dont have much money right now, so I might just be able to afford like a 3 or 5 pack. But I need something to grow. So, now is where I ask what strain you recommend, and where to get it from.

Thanks everyone for the support I know I will get from all you stand-up guys in this forum.

Moves can be a flat pain in the ass.  I hate em.  I'm not surprised that you ran into some snags.  But it's good to have you back.  Sorry to hear that your grow hasn't been going well.  But Infinite has given you some good information on how to bring them back.  Matter of fact, I'm going to give that a try on two plants I have that aren't doing very well.

Sorry to hear about your seeds, that really sucks.  But don't dispair, it's still early enough in the growing season to still get a crop in.  I don't remember when daylight dropped below 12 hours a day in your area, but say it's Sept. 15.  If you ordered seeds now and got them in two weeks that would be May 27.  In 4-5 weeks they would be ready to go outdoors, around June 28.  That gives you 11 weeks to veg before they start flowering.  Depending on the strain you got they could still get pretty big, just not as big as they could have been.  I had an Arjan's Ultra Haze last year that was 5' tall by the middle of July.  Given the conditions you have there I'd bet you could still get 8-12 oz. a plant.

If you want to go the autoflowering route I can help you there.  I'm learning more about them all the time.  As this point I've got 3 Diesel Ryders and 1 Hindu Kush that are flowering, a Blueberry Kush x Diesel I just transplanted yesterday and 7 White Russian that are about a week and a half old.  I've still got 15 more seeds and am will probably order at least 10 more.  My Diesel Ryders took a beating too.  I actually started them a couple weeks too early, the weather turned crappy and I finally had no choice but to put them outside and it got windy and nasty.  But they've recovered pretty well and are setting buds.

Mostly the autoflowering seeds are sold in 10 packs for around $60.  That's for non feminized.  There are a couple of feminized strains available but they are more expensive.  Dope-seeds came out with their own line at $38 for 10 non fems.  They do have 5 Snowryder fems for $42.  I've got 5 of those but haven't planted them yet.  I've had a very poor male to female ratio this year, so those Snowryders might be a good bet for you.  If you got 4 good plants you could get 3-4 ounces off of them.

More later, need to go spend some time with the Mrs.

[stunnajh]

Glad to be back. I went ahead and ordered my seeds. I got 10 non fem regular sized mango. They were really cheap (22 bucks!) and they r supposed to produce similar yields to big bud. Plus I am anxious to taste them. I will get 5 free seeds which I imagine are going to be the Mazar x Afghan again.

I had the plants under those light you would use for baby chicks. It seemed to help a little. I left and came home and both of my plants were bent over... and here's the worst part... a (what I call) stink bug was sitting on top of one of the plants, which I imagine he was on top of the other one earlier which is why that one was bent. What kind of shit is that? Not only was there a stink bug in my house, but he happened to be on top of my plants. Little prick! lol... So the plant that already had a bend in it has another one now, so I tied another string to it close to the top. The plant I found him on wasn't actually bent, just leaning. It seems to be the better of the two.

I have heard of boiling egg shells and scraping the foam off of the top and applying it to the plants... does this sound right to you? I would like to give them some kind of nutrients but i dont want to use a bunch of chemicals on them. But I put them next to an open window so at least they should have sufficient oxygen. Should I put a fan on them now or should I wait on that? because they are both very puny but I dont want to do too much to them.

I really wanted to go the auto-flowering route but I just couldn't afford it. I am pretty excited about the mango coming, though. I might have some spare money coming my way within a couple of days, and if so, I will probably get an order of some autos.

[Infinite]

damn man, i was really hoping you would see a turn around, so here is a question, the light that u use for chicks, i am unfamiliar with. what kinda of light is in it, is it an incandescent bulb? Halogen? i hope neither of these as i suspect it may be cause i imagine that the chicks need warmth right. Fill me in, i am interested.

[stunnajh]

um... idk which it is.. but ya it is for warmth... is that not gunna help at all? but I just checked one of the plants looks like it is starting to respond... it is starting to perk up a bit and go towards the light. it is still really skinny and puny looking... but i definitely see progress. The other.... no so much.

[Infinite]

um, well we want to avoid the hotter lamps and focus more on light spectrum and intensity in lumen.  Basically if it is a round bulb like most ppl have throughout their homes then it is not gonna really do much for ur plant, it does do a little but not worth the power and heat. if u have any cfl's like the little spiral bulbs or even some overhead florescent lights like kitchen or shop lamps. the long tubes, anything like that would be much more beneficial to the plants. Mainly due to how close u can get them without burning the girls. Also the wavelength of the florescent light is usually much better suited for healthy plant growth

[stunnajh]

O ok... well ya they put off quite a bit of heat. lol so I will not turn those on the plants anymore... I just thought it would be better than nothing... We have so many trees around here theres really not even a good window to put them in...

[Infinite]

yeah u really need a florescent light or an hid but if u don't have em then u don't have em, even an under the counter light in the kitchen or something in the bathroom, almost everyone has one in their house somewhere. also in fish aquariums. how are the plants looking. and the plants are gonna need light, make sure that if u do use the chicken thing that the heat from it isn't reaching the plants new growth, just hold ur hand there and if it is any more than slight warmth it is prob too much. move the light farther away

[stunnajh]

I have been sitting them outside everytime the sun comes out. One plant seems to be doing quite a bit better. The other isn't making much process, and appears to be browing... So I don't think it is going to make it, but I won't give up on it yet. Got an email saying my seeds were sent this morning. So im excited about that.

[Infinite]

congrats, one thing i have read, not to sure how true it is as i havent moved my plants in and out for a long time, but that u should always keep them north south aligned, as in dont be twisting your plants, the goal is to minimize the stress levels on them right now. so if u move em do it gently and be sure to keep em aimed the same way all times. again i dont even remember when or where i read that but i am sure i read it and that it had to do with stress levels on the plants especially during shock periods. If u can scrounge up some cash, i would say maybe get some fish emultion and or root stem/transplanting solution from home depot and mix it to 1/3 strength and add it to both plants...just make sure not to flood them again, also have u jiggled the plants around after flushing them? gotta ask cause we dont want to drown them

[stunnajh]

yes I jiggled them. I made sure there was no more water... What does fish emulsion do?

I found some fluorescent light bulbs that replace regular bulbs around the house... they put off 825 lumens... is it even worth putting that light on them when sunlight is not an option?

I will definitely try to remember the north south thing. It makes sense.